Episode 144: 5 things that make change succeed or fail in an organisation

LESS CHATTER, MORE MATTER PODCAST | 13 NOVEMBER 2025

Here we see a Tale of Two Transformations... and with it, the large divide between experiences that became the catalyst for this episode's creation. 

This divide: why a change can thrive in one organisation but collapse in another — even when they start with the same strategy, consultants, and goals?

In this episode of the Less Chatter, More Matter podcast, we explore five universal truths about what makes or breaks transformation. Through the stories of two very different organisations, Happiness Co and Sadness Co, we explore how leadership alignment, culture, capability, progress, and people can completely change the outcome of a transformation effort.

It’s a tale of what happens when change is driven with people, not at them, and what you can do to avoid becoming the tale of a failing change transformation. Listen in now!

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